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	<title>Comments on: Cigar Review: Rocky Patel R4</title>
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		<title>By: Keith</title>
		<link>http://www.acigarsmoker.com/2009/01/30/cigar-review-rocky-patel-r4/#comment-17881</link>
		<dc:creator>Keith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jun 2010 04:53:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am a newblet when it comes to cigars. I think this Rocky Patel R4 is probably my 25th cigar. I am here on this forum because I was wondering if it was me or if this cigar just was really not worth it. I Don&#039;t think its worth. I had to cut the end 5 times to get a draw that wasnt like breathing through a coffee stirrer and the flavor is extremely weak. I would pay 2 dollars not to smoke it again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a newblet when it comes to cigars. I think this Rocky Patel R4 is probably my 25th cigar. I am here on this forum because I was wondering if it was me or if this cigar just was really not worth it. I Don&#8217;t think its worth. I had to cut the end 5 times to get a draw that wasnt like breathing through a coffee stirrer and the flavor is extremely weak. I would pay 2 dollars not to smoke it again.</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://www.acigarsmoker.com/2009/01/30/cigar-review-rocky-patel-r4/#comment-14307</link>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 May 2010 22:22:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am a huge RP fan, but have to say I am disappointed with the R4. No flavor at all, it was not worth smoking.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a huge RP fan, but have to say I am disappointed with the R4. No flavor at all, it was not worth smoking.</p>
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		<title>By: The EVP</title>
		<link>http://www.acigarsmoker.com/2009/01/30/cigar-review-rocky-patel-r4/#comment-12233</link>
		<dc:creator>The EVP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Apr 2010 01:38:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d have to say this rating is VERY generous.  I&#039;ve tried these cigars before and can&#039;t imagine giving anything higher than a 72.  Even the RP reps cringe when you mention the R4.  No flavor (actualy tasted like mulch and didn&#039;t smell much better when burned).  It pains me to say this because I&#039;m pretty much a big RP fan, but this cigar is best left on the shelves.  Not even good enough for the mooches.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d have to say this rating is VERY generous.  I&#8217;ve tried these cigars before and can&#8217;t imagine giving anything higher than a 72.  Even the RP reps cringe when you mention the R4.  No flavor (actualy tasted like mulch and didn&#8217;t smell much better when burned).  It pains me to say this because I&#8217;m pretty much a big RP fan, but this cigar is best left on the shelves.  Not even good enough for the mooches.</p>
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		<title>By: Sticks</title>
		<link>http://www.acigarsmoker.com/2009/01/30/cigar-review-rocky-patel-r4/#comment-10404</link>
		<dc:creator>Sticks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Feb 2010 04:34:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had a fiver of the R4 Corojo line and I thought they had a cheap taste to them without much of a redeeming value and would not buy them again. Not much of a Rocky P. fan anymore after trying many of his sticks. R.P and Gurka&#039;s lines of sticks are getting to be industrial cigars. Mass produced without much flavor.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had a fiver of the R4 Corojo line and I thought they had a cheap taste to them without much of a redeeming value and would not buy them again. Not much of a Rocky P. fan anymore after trying many of his sticks. R.P and Gurka&#8217;s lines of sticks are getting to be industrial cigars. Mass produced without much flavor.</p>
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		<title>By: Gimme a Padron</title>
		<link>http://www.acigarsmoker.com/2009/01/30/cigar-review-rocky-patel-r4/#comment-8965</link>
		<dc:creator>Gimme a Padron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jan 2010 23:41:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Arnie, 
Your a wizard with numbers. It makes sense 1200% more expensive and only 10% better quality. Now it&#039;s easy to understand the monetary part but I&#039;m unclear with the rating part. Is1% in a cigar rating the same as a dollar in the bank?  If this was the case the Patel R4 would cost $84.00, I&#039;m not sure which Padron your referring to but just as an example let&#039;s plug in the Padron 1964 Principe Anniversary which is a great cigar and really only 1/2 the size of a Patel Robusto.The Padron 1964 Principe scored 100 points on this forum, so now  we&#039;re looking at a $100.00 cigar and it&#039;s 1/2 of the size. Wait......I know what everyone&#039;s thinking now, the cost of an equal Padron would be $200.00 to get the same amount of smoking time as the Patel Robusto. Well the calculations are correct and well respected;  however I myself would rather have a $100.00 absolutely mind blowing never a bad one Padron than an $84.00 who&#039;s know what&#039;s going to happen or how it tastes Rocky Patel. 
I should also mention I&#039;m Lactose Intolerant and that milky aroma or flavor that Doc8466 mentioned may not agree with me. I&#039;m always looking for bargain basement cigar and only hope that I will be able to smoke Padron&#039;s, Fuente Anejo&#039;s, Opus X&#039;s,  Ashton VSG&#039;s, ESG&#039;s or so many other $15-$30 cigars on a daily basis.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Arnie,<br />
Your a wizard with numbers. It makes sense 1200% more expensive and only 10% better quality. Now it&#8217;s easy to understand the monetary part but I&#8217;m unclear with the rating part. Is1% in a cigar rating the same as a dollar in the bank?  If this was the case the Patel R4 would cost $84.00, I&#8217;m not sure which Padron your referring to but just as an example let&#8217;s plug in the Padron 1964 Principe Anniversary which is a great cigar and really only 1/2 the size of a Patel Robusto.The Padron 1964 Principe scored 100 points on this forum, so now  we&#8217;re looking at a $100.00 cigar and it&#8217;s 1/2 of the size. Wait&#8230;&#8230;I know what everyone&#8217;s thinking now, the cost of an equal Padron would be $200.00 to get the same amount of smoking time as the Patel Robusto. Well the calculations are correct and well respected;  however I myself would rather have a $100.00 absolutely mind blowing never a bad one Padron than an $84.00 who&#8217;s know what&#8217;s going to happen or how it tastes Rocky Patel.<br />
I should also mention I&#8217;m Lactose Intolerant and that milky aroma or flavor that Doc8466 mentioned may not agree with me. I&#8217;m always looking for bargain basement cigar and only hope that I will be able to smoke Padron&#8217;s, Fuente Anejo&#8217;s, Opus X&#8217;s,  Ashton VSG&#8217;s, ESG&#8217;s or so many other $15-$30 cigars on a daily basis.</p>
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		<title>By: Mick</title>
		<link>http://www.acigarsmoker.com/2009/01/30/cigar-review-rocky-patel-r4/#comment-6484</link>
		<dc:creator>Mick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 20:30:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would give it two more points, one for flavor and one for overall.  The R4s I tried sound like they had a little more of a nutty creaminess throughout the middle third (compared to yours).  Not a gem, but glad I tried it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would give it two more points, one for flavor and one for overall.  The R4s I tried sound like they had a little more of a nutty creaminess throughout the middle third (compared to yours).  Not a gem, but glad I tried it.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob</title>
		<link>http://www.acigarsmoker.com/2009/01/30/cigar-review-rocky-patel-r4/#comment-3571</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 16:47:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>RIP Doc, I will definitely miss your early morning cigar reviews.  In the meantime I eat cereal while I smoke my R4 Corojo.  It&#039;s the perfect combination!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RIP Doc, I will definitely miss your early morning cigar reviews.  In the meantime I eat cereal while I smoke my R4 Corojo.  It&#8217;s the perfect combination!</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
		<link>http://www.acigarsmoker.com/2009/01/30/cigar-review-rocky-patel-r4/#comment-983</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Mar 2009 21:00:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@doc8466 &quot;I am getting over pneumonia so will give Rocky another try in a week or so to see if any of these notes show up or not.&quot; 

Since Doc wrote this on 3 Feb (and it&#039;s now 30 Mar without a reply), I guess we can assume the pneumonia got &#039;em and he&#039;s passed.

RIP Doc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@doc8466 &#8220;I am getting over pneumonia so will give Rocky another try in a week or so to see if any of these notes show up or not.&#8221; </p>
<p>Since Doc wrote this on 3 Feb (and it&#8217;s now 30 Mar without a reply), I guess we can assume the pneumonia got &#8216;em and he&#8217;s passed.</p>
<p>RIP Doc.</p>
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		<title>By: doc8466</title>
		<link>http://www.acigarsmoker.com/2009/01/30/cigar-review-rocky-patel-r4/#comment-487</link>
		<dc:creator>doc8466</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Feb 2009 11:32:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I spent over 2 hrs doing some simple organizing of my cigars, and while doing so pulled out one of my R4 Corojo torpedos.  I lit it up while starting my evening perusal of stogie related sites and noted something very sweet on the cap.  Not bad, but not something I&#039;d expect from a corojo.  Then 1/2 inch in, I got the distinct aroma of milk.  That was a first, and if it never happened again it&#039;d be ok with me.  After that I couldn&#039;t really get anything else out of it since I kept thinking milk milk milk...

The retro gave me some definite citrus, I&#039;d go with lime I think.

Other than that it was uneventful.  But with all said, I am getting over pneumonia so will give Rocky another try in a week or so to see if any of these notes show up or not.

Stay tuned!  ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I spent over 2 hrs doing some simple organizing of my cigars, and while doing so pulled out one of my R4 Corojo torpedos.  I lit it up while starting my evening perusal of stogie related sites and noted something very sweet on the cap.  Not bad, but not something I&#8217;d expect from a corojo.  Then 1/2 inch in, I got the distinct aroma of milk.  That was a first, and if it never happened again it&#8217;d be ok with me.  After that I couldn&#8217;t really get anything else out of it since I kept thinking milk milk milk&#8230;</p>
<p>The retro gave me some definite citrus, I&#8217;d go with lime I think.</p>
<p>Other than that it was uneventful.  But with all said, I am getting over pneumonia so will give Rocky another try in a week or so to see if any of these notes show up or not.</p>
<p>Stay tuned!  <img src='http://www.acigarsmoker.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: doc8466</title>
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		<dc:creator>doc8466</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Feb 2009 17:55:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting way to look at it Arnie.  As smoker who also is always in search of a &#039;diamond in the rough&#039; in the $2-$3 range, I picked up a bundle of both the maduro and corojo R4.  So far I haven&#039;t tried the corojo but the maduro version in robusto is a nice simple straightforward Honduran tasting maduro.  Don&#039;t hold it in your mouth too long though &#039;cause your lips will turn dark brown from the dye he uses....

Thanks for the second oppinion!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting way to look at it Arnie.  As smoker who also is always in search of a &#8216;diamond in the rough&#8217; in the $2-$3 range, I picked up a bundle of both the maduro and corojo R4.  So far I haven&#8217;t tried the corojo but the maduro version in robusto is a nice simple straightforward Honduran tasting maduro.  Don&#8217;t hold it in your mouth too long though &#8217;cause your lips will turn dark brown from the dye he uses&#8230;.</p>
<p>Thanks for the second oppinion!</p>
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